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PostPosted: Sat Aug 14, 2004 2:35 am    Post subject: BS15000 v ISO 9000 Reply with quote

I know quite a bit about ISO 9000, but very little about BS15000. Is there any relationship between them?
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 26, 2004 12:18 am    Post subject: BS15000 v ISO 9000 Reply with quote

Yes, the last 3 digits of both are zeros!

ISO 9000, which also carries the title of BS ISO 9000 when you are in England, is normally seen associated with the business side of the house. Additionally, sometimes it can be just associated with a Quality Framework on the business side of the house.

BS 15000 is normally adopted by the IT side of the house. The process names and controls are adopted to terminology used by IT folks. It is also more optimized around IT risk functions associated with changing the IT production system. ISO 9000 is a set of best practices that attempts to manage the risks associated with the "business systems or manufacturing" production systems.

There are many examples of IT firms that are ISO certified - usually they support a government organization that requires it. The Canadian government is a prime example - if you want to do business with them then become ISO 9000 certified. They could require similar certification associated with BS15000.

If you were try to do both - you would be challenged on which one of these standards rules when it comes to naming the processes and how the production system is segmented.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 11, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In particular Section 3 of BS 15000 the "Requirements for a Management System" could benefit from previous certification to ISO 9000 as you should be able to demonstrate that you have a structured quality management system as long as it has been applied within the area scoped for BS 15000 certification. i.e. it is no use having a corporate QMS that is not taken and applied/used within the service management area.

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PostPosted: Thu Sep 01, 2005 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Totally agree on that point. A corporate QMS and IT Service management can and should go hand in hand
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 05, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: ISO2000 and ISO9000 Reply with quote

Reddevil1976 wrote:
Totally agree on that point. A corporate QMS and IT Service management can and should go hand in hand


I am a bit confused here, so are you trying to say we need to adopt both ISO9000 and ISO20000.?
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 25, 2007 2:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No you don't need to do both. But if you are doing both you should do them in a coordinated fashion. They compliment but do replace each other.
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